Legendary Survivor - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

fiery · May 30, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Enforce a log-out time to stop quitters.

quickmonty · May 30, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Just get rid of the title. That will stop people from leaving mid-battle before they die. Stupid idea to begin with.

Linksys · May 31, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

I'd like to see the title gone too. Some people will just get a feeling of imperfection if they don't have it. People will be jerks and quit on other people. One even admitted it right here.

Either get rid of it or make the last death reset the XP count to the title. Not the XP amount of course, but the XP count to the title on the Titles tab. That way if you lose it, it's possible to gain it back.

Fyre Brand · May 31, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Fiery has the right idea. Enforce a logout time. Personally I like the idea of the titles it actually gives someone something to achieve. This title is no more meaningless than any of the other titles. Look at fame. Some people who have earned their fame are skilled at pvp, while others just i-farmed their way there and have little idea how to do anything else. The same can be said about the other titles. Some people fight the arena till they get their gladiator title and quit on their group while other people are still trying for their wins.

I think it has nothing to do with the title and everything to do with a certain amount of our game community that is very selfish and has fairly low character.

Stank Tank · Jun 01, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

I read somewhere that presearing deaths and deaths during missions don't count against you getting the title, but any others (quests,farming, etc) do. Hope that's right because my new tank is almost lvl 17 and has not died SINCE presearing, where she got a little RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOy too early.

Fyre Brand · Jun 02, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06

I know cinematic deaths don't count. But you will know if the death counts because the title track progression will no longer be available to you. I haven't heard anything about some deaths not counting except cinematics and that one at the very beginning of factions where the tutorial master kills you at the rez shrine.

Juicey Shake · Jun 02, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20

If the death is game forced, it does not count.

ie; death required for storyline [cutscene deaths].

if you die DURING a mission it counts against you, yes, but NOT if it was FORCED by the game. If you get wooped by an afflicted whatever yer gunna get a death count yeah! But if you get wiped at the end of the mission along with your party during the less than amazing cinematic, naah, no /death .

Angel Netherborn · Jun 02, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by Fyre Brand

Enforce a logout time.

Umm... that would make it a pain to switch characters.... especially when you need to clear out your storage or inventory to transfer stuffs...

And I like the idea of titles too. It gives something for PvE ppl to work towards, for those who prefer to do something other than just farming. Fine if you have it, fine if you don't.

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Originally Posted by Hell Marauder

In fact, if only I could, I'll only want to be in a group with none other than survivors so I know they won't play foolishly.

Actually, I'd be pretty worried about them dropping from the game. If they're survivors, chances are, they're aiming for legendary survivor...

vinegrower · Jun 02, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by dawnrain

Unfortunately the current mechanics of the survivor title makes it impossible to distinguish the people who earned it and the people who didn't.

Wouldn't it be better if "mapping out" and disconnecting counted as deaths for purposes of this title? Then everyone (at least those with several level 20 missions completed) will have earned it.

that would also mean that people with poor connections would not be allowed to earn it. Or what about a problem on Anet's end that causes a disconnection? There are several threads about lagging out already, how would it be fair to punish those for something beyond their control? I don't think this should be a title reserved for those that can afford the best connection and get lucky.

Carth` · Jun 02, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Angel Netherborn

Umm... that would make it a pain to switch characters.... especially when you need to clear out your storage or inventory to transfer stuffs...

It would only be during a mission or in an explorable area. If you're in a town you aren't in danger of dying, and could log out or map area instantly. If you're quitting in the middle of a battle just to get survivor you should be penalized somehow

A_Muppet · Jun 02, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

To me, the survivor titles basically means you're good at running at the first sign of danger. The ones I respect are the Protector titles (missions) as that usually means you know how to play PvE, which is what I play exclusively.

Fyre Brand · Jun 02, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by Carth`

It would only be during a mission or in an explorable area. If you're in a town you aren't in danger of dying, and could log out or map area instantly. If you're quitting in the middle of a battle just to get survivor you should be penalized somehow

Exactly. When you are in a town then you could switch characters as much as you wanted.

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Originally Posted by A_Muppet

To me, the survivor titles basically means you're good at running at the first sign of danger. The ones I respect are the Protector titles (missions) as that usually means you know how to play PvE, which is what I play exclusively.

That could be true, but I think that's really over generalized. You can over generalize about almost any title. The Protector title doesn't mean one is good at PvE it just means they were with a group that got them through the game. See how over generalizing can be bad?

There are skilled respectable ways to earn each title and their are cheap back doors too. I don't think the quality of a player should be judged on their titles.

Flames of Sorrow · Jun 02, 2006, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Yea, I won't tell people with the survivor title in my party either. There is no way of telling who did and did not earn it. It is bad enough that it can take a good half hour to form a team. I aint taking a chance on getting people who leave in my group and wasting even more time.

zelira · Jun 02, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by Hell Marauder

I disagree. Among all titles, it's the ONLY one worthy of respect. It's the only title that you can't just get simply by spending more money or time playing. It requires some planning. Even farming with 55 hp carries a lot of risks.

Instructions for Tyrian Legendary survivors:
1. Create a new char and have guildies help with pre-searing quests.
2. Hide when searing your char.
3. Get a run to Droks
4. Have someone PL you to 1,337,337xp.

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Originally Posted by Hell Marauder

In fact, if only I could, I'll only want to be in a group with none other than survivors so I know they won't play foolishly.

2 minutes into the mission, everyone drops. O.o

I know there are people that get that title honestly and they have my respect. However there's ways around it and no way to tell how they got the title.

Botwa · Jun 06, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Hell Marauder

I disagree. Among all titles, it's the ONLY one worthy of respect. It's the only title that you can't just get simply by spending more money or time playing. It requires some planning. Even farming with 55 hp carries a lot of risks.

In fact, if only I could, I'll only want to be in a group with none other than survivors so I know they won't play foolishly. As for people quitting missions, you don't worry about it in chapter 2, because in that third mission, Vizunah Square, if you watch the end-mission cinematic you'll see everyone has to die once in that mission.

I don't think the end of the Vizunah square mission counts as a death.. =) Could be wrong though, I had already died countless times while leveling. I was however only lvl 17 with the rest of my group henchmen. So if I had been deathless to that point, and was marked as dieing, that would have been so lame.

Funk ee Monk ee · Jun 06, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by Hell Marauder

...As for people quitting missions, you don't worry about it in chapter 2, because in that third mission, Vizunah Square, if you watch the end-mission cinematic you'll see everyone has to die once in that mission.

To echo the others, this death does not count. I tried after getting my title and still had 0. If you lose a primary npc (mhenlo in V Square for example) you will drop and fail mission but it does not count as a death.

May 30, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56	#21
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	Enforce a log-out time to stop quitters.

May 30, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59	#22
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Just get rid of the title. That will stop people from leaving mid-battle before they die. Stupid idea to begin with.

May 31, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15	#23
Linksys Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006	I'd like to see the title gone too. Some people will just get a feeling of imperfection if they don't have it. People will be jerks and quit on other people. One even admitted it right here. Either get rid of it or make the last death reset the XP count to the title. Not the XP amount of course, but the XP count to the title on the Titles tab. That way if you lose it, it's possible to gain it back.

May 31, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#24
Fyre Brand Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Shadowlight Order [SoR]	Fiery has the right idea. Enforce a logout time. Personally I like the idea of the titles it actually gives someone something to achieve. This title is no more meaningless than any of the other titles. Look at fame. Some people who have earned their fame are skilled at pvp, while others just i-farmed their way there and have little idea how to do anything else. The same can be said about the other titles. Some people fight the arena till they get their gladiator title and quit on their group while other people are still trying for their wins. I think it has nothing to do with the title and everything to do with a certain amount of our game community that is very selfish and has fairly low character.

Jun 01, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28	#25
Stank Tank Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Jedi Elites Profession: W/Mo	I read somewhere that presearing deaths and deaths during missions don't count against you getting the title, but any others (quests,farming, etc) do. Hope that's right because my new tank is almost lvl 17 and has not died SINCE presearing, where she got a little RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOy too early.

Jun 02, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06	#26
Fyre Brand Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Shadowlight Order [SoR]	I know cinematic deaths don't count. But you will know if the death counts because the title track progression will no longer be available to you. I haven't heard anything about some deaths not counting except cinematics and that one at the very beginning of factions where the tutorial master kills you at the rez shrine.

Jun 02, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20	#27
Juicey Shake Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Guild: in it for the trimmmm Profession: R/	If the death is game forced, it does not count. ie; death required for storyline [cutscene deaths]. if you die DURING a mission it counts against you, yes, but NOT if it was FORCED by the game. If you get wooped by an afflicted whatever yer gunna get a death count yeah! But if you get wiped at the end of the mission along with your party during the less than amazing cinematic, naah, no /death .

Jun 02, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05	#31
A_Muppet Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005	To me, the survivor titles basically means you're good at running at the first sign of danger. The ones I respect are the Protector titles (missions) as that usually means you know how to play PvE, which is what I play exclusively.

Jun 02, 2006, 07:25 PM // 19:25	#33
Flames of Sorrow Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Shut Up And Die [DIE] Profession: E/Mo	Yea, I won't tell people with the survivor title in my party either. There is no way of telling who did and did not earn it. It is bad enough that it can take a good half hour to form a team. I aint taking a chance on getting people who leave in my group and wasting even more time.